much so. mitt romney's best moments in that debate came when he talked about patriotic grace. when he talked about bipartisanship, his ability to work with democrats, how patriotism should leaven our understanding of politics so that we can get things done. it was lyrical and lovely. especially for someone who doesn't excel it back like mitt romney. that is what people want. they want to see people working again and leadership that allows that to happen. what joe biden was saying, was very much what we heard over the debate of the stimulus when obama came into office, and over his 2010 health law. we won, elections have consequences, you lose, you are repudiated. that is not what voters want to hear. they want to hear the patriotic grades. megyn: one viewer wrote to us and said the old man tried to push around a kid and the kid tried to stand his ground. was it just a spirited politician? forcefully advocating for his position? peter johnson junior will be here momentarily. we will be asking him about that and we will play more from the vice presidential debate see you can make up you